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 Friday, November 20 2009 @ 11:03 PM EST

Glide Performance Data Analysis

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General News

I finally found some time to dig into the recorded data from the glide performance testing on Monday. The combination of the Dynon data output logic and the design of my data recording scripts meant that the altitude in the records changed back and forth between pressure altitude and barometric altitude many times a minute (i.e. some were with altimeter setting of 29.92, and some were with 30.13). I came up with an apparently fool proof way to fix that, then crunched the numbers.

I found that the speed for best glide with the prop windmilling was a bit faster than I had expected. I was expecting it to be about 95 kt at the test weight, but it looks like it is closer to 105 kt. It would probably be closer to 110 kt at gross weight. The glide ratio looks to be about 8.15 at the speed for best glide, but I’ll put a value of 8:1 in the POH.

With the prop stopped, at 80 kt, the glide ratio was about 8.8:1 vs about 6.35:1 with the prop windmilling at the same speed, which is a significant increase in glide performance. But, given that it is so hard to get the prop to stop turning (I needed to sit just above the stall with full flaps for about 2 minutes to get it to stop), there is little to be gained by attempting to stop the prop. The altitude lost during the steep glide at low speed at full flap would probably never to be made up.


The speed for minimum rate of descent (i.e. the speed that gives the most time to attempt engine restarts, or to make emergency calls on the radio) is about 90 kt.


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Most Recent Post: 11/20 09:45PM by flyeyes

Flt 44 Report

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Flight Test

Monday 16 Nov 2009
1.4 air time
1.3 flt time

Inter-flight activities:

  1. Installed missing standby alternator control wire.
  2. Moved fuel flow transducer to be between engine-driven fuel pump and fuel injection servo.

Purpose:

  1. Standby alternator functional test.
  2. Fuel flow indication test.
  3. CHT cylinder-to-cylinder difference check.
  4. Engine restart tests.
  5. Glide performance tests.

Events:

  1. Checked standby alternator performance between 1800 and 2100 rpm.
  2. Checked fuel flow indication stability.
  3. Checked CHT values in climb and cruise.
  4. Conducted engine shutdown and restart tests.
  5. Conducted glide performance tests with prop windmilling and with prop stopped.

Results:

  1. The standby alternator maintains essential bus voltage at 12.9 volts with battery master and alternator OFF, and rpm at 1900 rpm or higher. Bus voltage starts to decrease at 1800 rpm (12.8 volts). All essential bus-powered avionics were ON for this test.
  2. Fuel flow indication is much, much more stable than before.
  3. All four CHTs are now within 30 deg F of each other the vast majority of the time.
  4. The engine restarts instantly once the mixture is moved from OFF to rich, with the throttle cracked open. The indications of engine failure at idle are very, very subtle, as the prop maintains the engine rpm at the selected value, and there is very little change in thrust. The fall in EGTs is the clearest indication of engine failure at idle.
  5. Once the mixture is pulled to OFF, it is extremely difficult to get the prop to stop turning. It persists in windmilling, even as the speed is slowed to the stall with flaps UP. The prop will eventually slow and stop, if flaps are selected to FULL, and the airspeed is held just above the stall for about two minutes. Once the prop was stopped, the airspeed could be increased to about 95 kt before the prop would start turning again.
  6. The glide performance was measured in reciprocal heading descents, with prop windmilling (mixture OFF, prop control full aft, throttle at idle) at 80, 90, 100, 110 and 120 kt.
  7. The glide performance was measured in reciprocal heading descents, with prop stopped (prop control full forward, throttle at full) at 80 kt. The glide ratio was approximately 9.4:1, based on hand-recorded data.
  8. Full glide performance results will be reported later.

New Snags:

  1. None.

Existing Snags:

  1. Max rpm still decreases late in the flight.
  2. Pitch trim speed of movement is slow during a touch and go. Need to try it with the pitch trim speed governor removed.


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Most Recent Post: 11/20 06:00PM by Kevin Horton

Glide Performance Testing

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Flight Test

I had a very interesting glide performance test flight late yesterday afternoon.

Eventually, I plan to use the RV-8 for quite a few trips back to Yarmouth, NS, to visit my parents and sister. Yarmouth is on the western tip of Nova Scotia, and you have a choice of flying over the Bay of Fundy, or going quite a bit further east to stay over land. The "over land" route adds an hour to the trip, so I am very interested in the Bay of Fundy route.

The Bay of Fundy is 24 nm wide if you cross from Grand Manan Island to Digby Neck. I want to know how high I need to be to ensure that I could get to land if the engine failed in the middle of the crossing.

I had assumed that it would be relatively easy to get the engine to stop turning after it was shut down, by reducing the airspeed. I planned to conduct a series of glide tests with the engine stopped at various airspeeds. I would then repeat with prop windmilling near best glide speed, and do another one with the engine running at idle, to see the differences.

After getting airborne yesterday, I did a couple of practice forced landings with the engine at idle, just in case. Then I climbed to 8000 ft, slowly pulled the power to idle, then pulled the mixture to OFF. The prop continued to windmill. I trialed the restart procedure (throttle just above idle, and smoothly push the mixture to RICH). The engine started immediately, as evidenced by the EGTs increasing. I shut it down again, and slowed to the stall, intending to do another restart test using the starter. The prop continued to windmill, even at the stall. I quickly amended the plan of the day to do all glide tests with prop windmilling.

I did two runs at each speed, one at 030 heading, and one at 210 heading (the forcast wind was 300, i.e. at 90 degrees to these headings). I flew test points at 80, 90, 100, 110 and 120 kt), timing the decent from 8000 ft to 7000 ft.

I was still wondering whether it was possible to get the prop to stop, so I climbed to 10,000 ft, pulled the mixture OFF, pushed the throttle to MAX (to increase the torque required to spin the engine), put the flaps fully DOWN, and slowed to just above the stall. The rpm very slowly decreased, and the engine finally stopped about 2 minutes after shutdown. I increased the airspeed, retracted the flaps, and did a glide test at 80 kt from 7300 ft to 6300 ft, then used the starter to restart the engine. I climbed back up and repeated on the reciprocal heading. After this one I very slowly increased the speed, and found that the engine would start spinning again at about 95 kt.

I cleverly left my log card with all the times, fuel quantities, etc in the aircraft, but I do have all the data I recorded on the laptop. But analyzing that data will be more work than expected, as I neglected to put the EFIS altimeter to 29.92.

The original Dynon EFIS software sent barometric altitude in every record, so if you forgot to set 29.92 you simply had a correction to make to the altitude on every record. But they eventually changed the software to alternate between pressure altitude and barometric altitude - one record has pressure altitude, and the next one has barometric altitude. They set a bit at the end of the record to indicate which type of altitude is contained in that record. But, I never updated my data recording script to check that bit, so it simply records every altitude, no matter what kind it is. So if I plot the altitude from this flight, I see that it jig zags up and down. I know what the altimeter setting was - now I need to write a script to correct every other record so I have a clear set of data to analyze.

I did a very quick "back of the envelope" calculation, using the raw data that I recall for 80 kt with prop stopped, and 90 kt with prop windmilling. The glide ratio was about 9.4:1 at 80 kt with prop stopped. It would be slightly better at 90 kt, but there would be a significant risk that the prop would start spinning. The glide ratio at 90 kt with prop windmilling, prop control full aft and throttle at idle was about 8.2:1. These intial estimates will be updated once the full data analysis has been completed.

Lessons learned - Don't count on getting the prop to stop if the engine fails. While it may be possible to get it to stop if the airspeed is kept just above the stall with full flap for two minutes, this yields a steeper glide during those two minutes, and thus it is unlikely that this lost altitude will ever be recovered, even with the slight improvement in glide performance that would occur if the prop could be stopped.

If the prop has stopped on an undamaged engine (engine stoppage due to fuel exhaustion, etc), care should be taken to not increase the airspeed above 90 kt, or the prop may start turning again.

I'll need to be at least 9,500 ft to be able to make land from any point in the crossing of the Bay of Fundy. I can go as high as 13,000 ft for 30 minutes without oxygen, so I'll plan to go to at least 11,000 ft to have some margin for winds, etc.


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Standby Alternator Wiring Fixed

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Electrical System

I was on the road most of the week, which was a crying shame as the weather was pretty much perfect. I would have loved to go flying. Of course the good weather disappeared as soon as the weekend hit.

Yesterday I spent the afternoon at the hangar, attacking the standby alternator voltage regulator power wire. It turns out that I did not install the wire from the standby alternator control relay to the big capacitor by the voltage regulator when I was installing the aircraft wiring. It looks like I didn’t have a suitable ring terminal. I should have put this open item on my big open items list, so I wouldn’t forget it. But, I never did that, so this wire never got installed. Once I got flying, I found that the standby alternator wasn’t working. I finally dug into the snag a few weeks ago, crawling under the panel with a copy of the wiring diagram and a multimeter. I quickly discovered the problem, and ordered the needed ring terminal.

It sure would have been a lot easier to install this wire when I was doing the rest of the wiring. I had to run it all the way from the right side of the instrument panel to the left landing gear box area. I was ever so happy I had added the access door in the aft wall of the forward baggage area.

It cost me about 2.5 hours and a couple of skinned knuckles, but I got the errant wire installed and tested with a multimeter. I’ll test the standby alternator the next time I go flying.


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Trois-Rivières for Lunch

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General News

Today was an absolutely gorgeous day. Bright sun. Not a cloud in the sky. The temperature hit 16 deg C (61 deg F). Terry and I flew to Trois-Rivières, Quebc (CYRQ) to meet John, a coworker, for lunch. His aircraft is based in Ottawa (CYOW), and ours is in Smiths Falls (CYSH). He was cruising at 120 kt, and we were at 160. But, we arrived at Trois-Rivières less than one minute apart. The airport restaurant was packed - we got the last table big enough for the five of us (Jim, the co-owner of the C172, and his wife also came along). The food was great.

The wind was really blowing at altitude - about 45 kt out of the west, so we cruised at 160 kt at 55% power at 9,000 ft on the way there, to let the wind do some of the work and save some fuel. On the way back, we went a lot lower, and pushed it up to 175 kt.

I was happy to note that #1 CHT is now in the middle of the pack, whereas it had been much lower than the others. Clearly the work I did to clean up the connection in the #1 CHT wire was what it needed. Now all four CHTs are within 30 deg F of each other. Not perfect, but close enough for now.

The fuel flow indication appears to be much more stable than it was before. It still moves once in a while, but the movements are much less frequent and of smaller amplitude than they were before. I’m looking forward to a flight where I record data, so I can see how much of this apparent improvement is real.

The work I did to seal drafts from the canopy seal seems to have made a big difference. We identified a couple of improvements that could be made to the air dam. Terry is going to make a new, improved version. I’ll post pictures once I have the final configuration.

The plan I had to run a SCAT tube to the rear seat to duct heat back there didn’t work out. I’ve got three large aluminum eyeball vents in the aircraft - two that provide fresh air, and the third that provides one of the two hot air supplies. I thought all those eyeball vents were identical, so I measured the easiest to reach one before ordering the SCAT tube - it had an outer diameter of 2 inches. But, when I tried to put the SCAT tube on the hot air eyeball, I discovered that this one was actually 1.75 inches in diameter. Drat. I’ll order a new piece of SCAT tube.


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Fuel Flow Transducer Moved

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The heat shield I needed to finish the fuel flow transducer work arrived this week, so I zipped out to the hangar early Saturday morning to finish the job. I also put in a new flexible fuel line from the fuel filter to the fuel pump inlet. The fuel flow transducer had been plumbed in between those two items, and I had temporarily connected those two lines with a union. But I knew that I would have a more reliable system if I could get rid of any extra connections, and I happened to have a flexible line in the basement that just happened to be the right length, so I put it in. I had feared that replacing the line would be a horrible job, as the input to the fuel pump is buried on the back of the engine, absolutely surrounded by inverted oil system lines, heat muff SCAT hose, throttle cable, etc. But, once I disconnected the heat muff SCAT hose, I just had enough access to get at the end of the hose.

I did a leak check using the boost pump, then put the cowling back on. I had planned a long cruise performance flight to check out the fuel flow indication, but I was running out of time to get back home so Terry could have the car. I almost decided to not go flying, but the wind was blowing 10 to 12 kt from the left, almost straight across the runway, and I didn’t want to miss any opportunity to expand the crosswind envelope. I did a quick circuit to a stop and go, then left the circuit for a quick check of the fuel flow as I leaned the mixture, then back into the circuit for a full stop landing. The fuel flow seemed to be much more stable than before, and the landings were quite acceptable.

Here is the fuel flow transducer, in its new location, between the engine-driven fuel pump and the fuel injection servo.


Here it is after wrapping it in firesleeve. I’ll make up a new piece of firesleeve and put some RTV on the edges and let it cure before tying it in place. This was the first attempt - airworthy, but very ugly.


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Misc Work

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I went out to the hangar early today, intending to do a bunch of work, then go flying. I spent a bit of time modifying some hardware to allow connecting the hangar plane mover to the tailwheel, as one of my hangar mates finds the aircraft hard to move around. I then installed a canopy air dam and weather stripping, in an attempt to stop the drafts that come by the back end of the canopy skirt. I also reinstalled some of the cockpit sidewall panels, as Terry had sewn on some Velcro strips to hold them in place.

Then I attacked moving the fuel flow transducer to get it between the engine-driven fuel pump and the fuel injection servo. That all went fairly well, but I decided that I should add a heat shield and some firesleeve before I fly. I’ve got firesleeve, at home, of course, but need to order a heat shield. So, no flight today. :( Hopefully I can get a heat shield here this week.


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Low CHT Indication Fixed?

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Engine Installation

I got a bit of free time to head to the hangar Wednesday last week, and attacked the CHT indication problem. I reseated the connectors between the CHT #1 probe and the extension wire that goes to the Engine Indication System. Then I rechecked CHT #1 and #3 in boiling water. Now both were showing the same temperature - about 10 deg F too low. Now that CHT #1 seems to have the same errors as the others again, it will be interesting to see how it compares to the other cylinders next time I get flying.

While I was at the hangar, I made a cardboard template of the area at the rear of the canopy frame. Terry will use the template to make a removable cloth screen that will be part of a scheme to hopefully stop the air drafts coming from under the canopy skirt. Hopefully we can try it out this coming weekend.

I pulled the passenger seat cushions out and brought them home, so I could install a heated seat kit. But, I learned that the leather seat covers are glued to the foam cushion. So, it will not be possible to install the heated seat kit. Terry has a 12v electric blanket that a friend gave her - we will try that next time we go flying.

I was on the road from Thursday until late this afternoon, so nothing got done on the aircraft. I did take the time for an editorial cleanup on the POH.


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Most Recent Post: 10/30 12:40PM by Kevin Horton

First Away Trip

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It’s been a good RV weekend. Yesterday, I took one of my coworkers for a short local flight. It was the first time he had been upside down for a good number of years. After we landed, I plugged the engine preheat into a timer, so it would start its magic at 7 AM on Sunday, as it was supposed to get well below freezing overnight.

Today, Terry and I zipped out to the airport and launched for Lindsay to have lunch. The engine was nicely warmed up by the Reiff preheater, and we wasted no time in getting airborne. It was a beautiful day to go flying, and we took about 50 minutes each way (126 nm), and had a very nice lunch. It was the first time I had been more than 25 nm from Smiths Falls, and the first time we had done anything “useful” with the aircraft. The main point of the exercise was to get a slightly longer flight, so Terry could see if there were any more issues I needed to address before we do longer flights.

She confirmed that there is a draft coming up around the rear seat stick. I’ll try putting some vinyl tape where the wing spars go into the centre section, and I’ll get a stick boot made. She confirmed my suspicion that there is a draft from the rear end of the canopy skirt. I have a plan for that, and I’ll report once I’ve had a chance to try it out. I’m also going to run a 2” SCAT tube from the hot air outlet on the back side of the front baggage aft wall to route it to the rear seat. And, I’ve got a line on a heated seat kit that I will try to put in the rear seat.

We forgot the camera, so no pictures.


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Low CHT Indication Musings

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Engine Installation

I've done some thinking about this, and I wonder if the low CHT #1 indication could possibly be due to excessive resistance somewhere between the CHT probe and the engine monitor. Each CHT probe is connected to about 18" of metal shielded cable, then each of the two wires per probe has spade connectors that connect them to extension wires that go to the engine monitor. The CHT probes are thermocouples, and if there is a high resistance at one of those spade connections, it could lead to the engine monitor sensing a lower voltage than the CHT probe is actually creating.

Next time I have the cowlings off, I will inspect and reseat the spade connectors for the #1 cylinder, then I'll check it in boiling water again. If that doesn't do it, I'll disconnect the #1 and #3 CHT probes at their spade connectors and trade them, and check with boiling water again. It'll be useful to see if the problem follows the probe, or if it stays on the #1 cylinder.

If the problem stays with the probe, I probably need to replace it. If the problem stays on the #1 cylinder, I'll pull the connector at the EIS and check for pins that aren't fully inserted. Pulling and reseating the connector should clean off any corrosion too. Next, I'll swap #1 CHT with another cylinder by moving the pins in the connector, to take all the wiring out of the picture. if the problem stays on the #1 cylinder after all that, I'll contact Grand Rapids, as I almost certainly have a failed engine monitor.


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